SubjectRe: [dq] Beastmastery questions
FromJulia McSpadden
DateFri, 15 Jun 2007 18:52:54 +1200
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I use beastmaster as a roleplaying ranking if I have been Hunting and =
Hawking, then I will rank beastmaster avians if I feel it is more =
fitting to advance in that than say courtier.  Actually trying to =
beastmaster my own bird would be foolish
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Helen Saggers=20
  To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [dq] Beastmastery questions


  Sorry I think I left a line off this at the end. it should read.

  This reliance on GM write-ups or mainly between adventuring use of  =
Beastmaster is probably a direct result of how poorly defined and =
un-adventuring friendly the skill as written is.

  Helen
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Helen Saggers=20
    To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz=20
    Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:15 PM
    Subject: Re: [dq] Beastmastery questions


    I agree the skill is as written is poorly defined.
    Presumably a domesticated horse can be ridden or will pull a cart or =
plow, a dog is house broken and obeys basic commands, and a falcon =
returns to the grove.=20

    Other than defining a base chance for getting it to do something =
unnatural like walk though a flaming doorway, what does training get =
you?
    As keeping control of your horse in combat is covered in =
Horsemanship, what do you get for your extra time ep and sp?=20
    When you train your horse or dog is the only benefit an animal =
that's less likely to stray... A bit of rope is cheaper and easier.

    I think that part of the reason this only comes up occasionally is =
that most animals either come with a full "its trained to" write up from =
the GM, is governed by the Wicca familiars rules, is sentient or a =
combination of these.
    And that most other beastmasters have the skill as I do with Thorn, =
as a non adventuring skill that backs up the claim that she trains =
warhorses for her own and others use.

    Helen



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I use beastmaster as a roleplaying =
ranking if I=20
have been Hunting and Hawking, then I will rank beastmaster avians if I =
feel it=20
is more fitting to advance in that than say courtier.&nbsp; Actually =
trying to=20
beastmaster my own bird would be foolish</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dhelen@owbn.net.nz href=3D"mailto:helen@owbn.net.nz">Helen =
Saggers</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Ddq@dq.sf.org.nz=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 14, 2007 =
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  questions</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry I think I left a line off this =
at the end.=20
  it should read.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This&nbsp;reliance on GM write-ups or =
mainly=20
  between adventuring use of&nbsp; Beastmaster is probably a direct =
result of=20
  how poorly defined and un-adventuring friendly the skill as written=20
  is.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Helen</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dhelen@owbn.net.nz href=3D"mailto:helen@owbn.net.nz">Helen =
Saggers</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Ddq@dq.sf.org.nz=20
    href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 14, 2007 =
2:15=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] =
Beastmastery=20
    questions</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree the skill is as written is =
poorly=20
    defined.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Presumably a domesticated horse can =
be ridden=20
    or will pull a cart or plow, a dog is house broken and obeys basic =
commands,=20
    and a falcon returns to the grove. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Other than defining a base chance =
for getting=20
    it to do something unnatural like walk though a flaming doorway, =
what does=20
    training get you?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As keeping control of your horse in =
combat is=20
    covered in Horsemanship, what do you get for your extra time ep and =
sp?=20
    </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When you train your horse or dog is =
the only=20
    benefit an animal that's less likely to stray... A bit of rope is =
cheaper=20
    and easier.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think that part of the reason =
this only comes=20
    up occasionally is that most&nbsp;animals either come with a full =
"its=20
    trained to" write up from the GM, is governed by the Wicca familiars =
rules,=20
    is sentient or a combination of these.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And&nbsp;that most other =
beastmasters have the=20
    skill as I do&nbsp;with Thorn, as a non adventuring skill that backs =
up the=20
    claim that she trains warhorses for her own and others =
use.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Helen</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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