| Subject | [dq] Sea Goddess Haven |
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| From | Jacqui Smith |
| Date | Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:18:45 +1200 |
--=====================_1122922781==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 01:41 p.m. 2/09/2007, you wrote: >The events of Autumn 806 were not communicated=20 >to those that claim to own her? I hope that this=20 >is a out-of-game oversight/communication issue. > ><http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven>http://ww= w.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven >http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/The_Siege_of_Novadom > Slightly more than that.... according to the=20 entry there, the Sea Goddess Haven was seized=20 under letter of marque. Now the wikipedia reference defines this as: "A Letter of Marque and Reprisal is an official=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_%28legal%29>warrant=20 or=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letters_patent>commission=20 from a national government authorizing the=20 designated=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage>agent to=20 search, seize, or destroy specified assets or=20 personnel belonging to a party which has=20 committed some offense under the laws of nations=20 against the assets or citizens of the issuing=20 nation, and has usually been used to authorize=20 private parties to raid and capture merchant shipping of an enemy nation. " I'm sorry, I don't see that applies.... no=20 offense against the Duke was committed, and the=20 vessel was not of a enemy nation (unless=20 relations between the Guild and the Duke have=20 worsened considerably since the last time I looked). As I understood it, the vessel in question was=20 borrowed for temporary use. And THEN seized by=20 another party. Without any compensation to the=20 Guild members whose home and business it was. And=20 it seems that this was okay with the persons who borrowed it. Under the Laws of Marine Salvage, I can see that=20 the previous owners could have a right to reclaim=20 the vessel, but they would be expected to pay compensation.... "A pure or merit salvage award will seldom exceed=20 50 percent of the value of the property salved.=20 The exception to that rule is in the case of=20 treasure salvage. Because sunken treasure has=20 generally been lost for hundreds of years, while=20 the original owner (or insurer, if the vessel was=20 insured) continues to have an interest in it, the=20 salvor or finder will generally get the majority=20 of the value of the property. While sunken ships=20 from the=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Main>Spanish=20 Main (such as=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuestra_Se%C3%B1ora_de_Atocha>Nuestra=20 Se=F1ora de Atocha in the=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Keys>Florida=20 Keys) are the most commonly thought of type of=20 treasure salvage, other types of ships including=20 German submarines from World War II which can=20 hold valuable historical artifacts,=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War>American=20 Civil War ships (the USS Maple Leaf in the=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Johns_River>St.=20 Johns River, and the=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Monitor>USS=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Monitor>Monitor=20 in=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesapeake_Bay>Chesapeake=20 Bay), and sunken merchant ships (the=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Central_America>SS=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Central_America>Central=20 America off=20 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Hatteras>Cape=20 Hatteras) have all been the subject of treasure salvage awards. " The Spanish government doesn't get to claim back=20 its sunken treasure ships.... and they went down only a few hundred years= ago. Of course, Alusian salvage laws may be different. Jacqui =20 --=====================_1122922781==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <body> At 01:41 p.m. 2/09/2007, you wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D""><font color=3D"#0000FF">The e= vents of Autumn 806 were not communicated to those that claim to own her? I hope that this is a out-of-game oversight/communication issue.<br> </font> <br> <font color=3D"#0000FF"> <a href=3D"http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven"= > http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven</a><br> <a= href=3D"http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/The_Siege_of_Novadom= " eudora=3D"autourl"> http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/The_Siege_of_Novadom</a> <br> </font> </blockquote><br> Slightly more than that.... according to the entry there, the Sea Goddess Haven was seized under letter of marque. Now the wikipedia reference defines this as:<br><br> "A <b>Letter of Marque and Reprisal</b> is an official <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_%28legal%29">warrant</a> or <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letters_patent">commission</a> from a national government authorizing the designated <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage">agent</a> to search, seize, or destroy specified assets or personnel belonging to a party which has committed some offense under the laws of nations against the assets or citizens of the issuing nation, and has usually been used to authorize private parties to raid and capture merchant shipping of an enemy nation. "<br><br> I'm sorry, I don't see that applies.... no offense against the Duke was committed, and the vessel was not of a enemy nation (unless relations between the Guild and the Duke have worsened considerably since the last time I looked).<br><br> As I understood it, the vessel in question was borrowed for temporary use. And THEN seized by another party. Without any compensation to the Guild members whose home and business it was. And it seems that this was okay with the persons who borrowed it. <br><br> Under the Laws of Marine Salvage, I can see that the previous owners could have a right to reclaim the vessel, but they would be expected to pay compensation.... <br><br> "A pure or merit salvage award will seldom exceed 50 percent of the value of the property salved. The exception to that rule is in the case of treasure salvage. Because sunken treasure has generally been lost for hundreds of years, while the original owner (or insurer, if the vessel was insured) continues to have an interest in it, the salvor or finder will generally get the majority of the value of the property. While sunken ships from the <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Main">Spanish Main</a> (such as <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuestra_Se%C3%B1ora_de_Atocha"><i> Nuestra Se=F1ora de Atocha</a></i> in the <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Keys">Florida Keys</a>) are the most commonly thought of type of treasure salvage, other types of ships including German submarines from World War II which can hold valuable historical artifacts, <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War">American Civil War</a> ships (the USS <i>Maple Leaf</i> in the <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Johns_River">St. Johns River</a>, and the <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Monitor">USS </a><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Monitor"><i>Monitor</a></i> in <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesapeake_Bay">Chesapeake Bay</a>), and sunken merchant ships (the <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Central_America">SS </a><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Central_America"><i>Central America</a></i> off <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Hatteras">Cape Hatteras</a>) have all been the subject of treasure salvage awards. " <br><br> The Spanish government doesn't get to claim back its sunken treasure ships.... and they went down only a few hundred years ago.<br><br> Of course, Alusian salvage laws may be different.<br><br> Jacqui<br><br> <br><br> <br> </body> </html> --=====================_1122922781==.ALT-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | [dq] Sea Goddess Haven |
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| From | Jonathan Bean |
| Date | Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:27:22 +1200 |
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Hi all,
=20
I (Engalton) would like to meet with the characters who owned and or
where or are involved in or with the Sea Goddess Haven at the guild
meeting please.
I would like to talk to you about the situation and why it was taken and
then later returned to the Elves. Could the players who want to come
along and talk about it, email me direct at Jonobean@gmail.com
I will try to get William to come along also.
=20
Kind regards,
=20
Jonathan Bean
=20
=20
________________________________
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Errol Cavit
Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2007 1:41 p.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] County of Brastor?
=20
The events of Autumn 806 were not communicated to those that claim to
own her? I hope that this is a out-of-game oversight/communication
issue.
=20
http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven
http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/The_Siege_of_Novadom
=20
Cheers
Errol
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On
Behalf Of Michael Scott
Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2007 23:04
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] County of Brastor?
=20
=09
________________________________
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:16:32 +1200
Subject: Re: [dq] County of Brastor?
From: dworkin@ihug.co.nz
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
The Pride of Fingolfin (Sea Goddess Haven) is floating
outside Newhaven and is being refitted by elves back to being a
Battleship.
=20
Gosh that's nice of them but when are they going to
return it and how much rent are we getting?
Also what is the blue book on it especially now that it
is modified and just which of the current owners agreed to the hireage (
I'm working on a master rank for Asparagus growing).
=20
TTFN
Human the Fool
=20
=09
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I (Engalton) would like to meet =
with the
characters who owned and or where or are involved in or with the Sea =
Goddess
Haven at the guild meeting please.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would like to talk to you about =
the
situation and why it was taken and then later returned to the Elves. =
Could the
players who want to come along and talk about it, email me direct at <a
href=3D"mailto:Jonobean@gmail.com">Jonobean@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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also.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Errol Cavit<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 2 September =
2007
1:41 p.m.<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] =
<st1:place
w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">County</st1:PlaceType> of =
<st1:PlaceName
=
w:st=3D"on">Brastor</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>?</span></font><o:p></o:p>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The events of Autumn 806 were not
communicated to those that claim to own her? I hope that this is a =
out-of-game
oversight/communication issue.</span></font><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></=
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href=3D"http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven"=
>http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven</a></sp=
an></font><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><a
href=3D"http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/The_Siege_of_Novad=
om">http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/The_Siege_of_Novadom</=
a></span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz
[mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf Of </span></b>Michael
Scott<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, 1 =
September 2007
23:04<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] =
<st1:place
w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">County</st1:PlaceType> of =
<st1:PlaceName
=
w:st=3D"on">Brastor</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>?<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
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face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></f=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 =
16:16:32
+1200<br>
Subject: Re: [dq] <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceType =
w:st=3D"on">County</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Brastor</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>?<br>
From: dworkin@ihug.co.nz<br>
To: <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>=
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The Pride of Fingolfin (Sea Goddess Haven) is =
floating
outside Newhaven and is being refitted by elves back to being a =
Battleship.</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></=
p>
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| Subject | Re: [dq] Sea Goddess Haven |
|---|---|
| From | Helen Saggers |
| Date | Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:47:47 +1200 |
There is a problem with this.... Simon White the player of Grendal Beetleknox is in Japan. He was in Japan when the ship was taken, and I know he is unhappy with the situation.... its just hard to make a fuss when you are only in the country for a week at Christmas and you don't find out your characters lost him home until... almost a year later. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Bean" <jonathanB@timedisciple.com> To: <dq@dq.sf.org.nz> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: [dq] Sea Goddess Haven Hi all, I (Engalton) would like to meet with the characters who owned and or where or are involved in or with the Sea Goddess Haven at the guild meeting please. I would like to talk to you about the situation and why it was taken and then later returned to the Elves. Could the players who want to come along and talk about it, email me direct at Jonobean@gmail.com I will try to get William to come along also. Kind regards, Jonathan Bean ________________________________ From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of Errol Cavit Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2007 1:41 p.m. To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] County of Brastor? The events of Autumn 806 were not communicated to those that claim to own her? I hope that this is a out-of-game oversight/communication issue. http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/The_Siege_of_Novadom Cheers Errol -----Original Message----- From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of Michael Scott Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2007 23:04 To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] County of Brastor? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:16:32 +1200 Subject: Re: [dq] County of Brastor? From: dworkin@ihug.co.nz To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz The Pride of Fingolfin (Sea Goddess Haven) is floating outside Newhaven and is being refitted by elves back to being a Battleship. Gosh that's nice of them but when are they going to return it and how much rent are we getting? Also what is the blue book on it especially now that it is modified and just which of the current owners agreed to the hireage ( I'm working on a master rank for Asparagus growing). TTFN Human the Fool ________________________________ Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! <http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx%20> -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | Re: [dq] Renaissance Colour Terms |
|---|---|
| From | Ian Wood |
| Date | Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:23:20 +1000 (EST) |
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hey you are right, I dont care and yet I use it in some games. Weird huh.=
=0A=0AA good dye comes down to the correct combination of fabric, dye and m=
ordant. different mordants can create a different colour for the same dye.=
=0AWith the magic of Alusia comes more exciting effects, and alchemy is one=
of those that should, at the more expensive end of the tailoring, be able =
to produce almost any colour.=0ABut really, that is only in theory and in p=
ractice it may take years/decades/centuries (elves eh?) to devise the corre=
ct magical support for a colour.=0AOr the theory may involve sympathetic di=
alogues so that some colours are only available on certain days of the call=
endar and the practice involves demons, or merely lazy dyers.=0A=0AHow to h=
ave colour that is race dependent?=0A=0AAnyway, good digging and lots of en=
joyment to be had keeping ahead of the royal household, although a short di=
stance behind tends to work best.=0A=0AIan=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -=
---=0AFrom: Andrew Withy <awithy@ihug.co.nz>=0ATo: dq@dq.sf.org.nz=0ASent: =
Saturday, 1 September, 2007 7:04:45 PM=0ASubject: [dq] Renaissance Colour T=
erms=0A=0A=0AThis is a =93did-you-know=94 post. I=92ll assume most of you a=
lso don=92t care, but for those that do=85=0AThe wide range of colour terms=
that we use in English appear to be quite recent (there are similar findin=
gs in other languages too). Many colour terms were introduced as dyes were =
found to consistently produce a single shade. This means that the vocab was=
much more limited in Renaissance times (and many philologists thought that=
colour vision only evolved in the last 2,000 years). GMs with limited colo=
ur vocabs (like me) need not feel so bad !=0A------------------------------=
-----------=0ARecorded colours up to 1500:=0ABlack 700=0AGreen 700=0AGr=
ey 700=0ARed 700=0AYellow 700=0AWhite 950=0APurple 975=0A*Gold =
1300=0ABlue 1300=0ABrown 1300=0AViolet 1370=0AScarlet 1386=0ACrimson=
1400=0AVermilion 1400=0A*Silver 1481=0AAzure 1481=0AAmber 1500=
=0A-----------------------------------------=0A=0A=0AAnd a wider range of s=
tandard colour terms:=0A-----------------------------------------=0AColour =
First recorded=0AAmber 1500=0AAqua(marine) 1862=0AAzure 1481=0ABeig=
e 1879=0ABlack 700=0ABlue 1300=0ABrown 1300=0ACarmine 1799=0ACharc=
oal 1952=0AChartreuse 1884=0ACream 1872=0ACrimson 1400=0AEmer=
ald 1598=0AFawn 1881=0AFuchsia 1923=0A*Gold 1300=0AGreen 700=0AGrey =
700=0AIndigo 1622=0ALavender 1882=0ALemon 1796=0ALilac 1791=
=0ALime 1923=0AMagenta 1860=0AMaroon 1791=0AMauve 1860=0AMustard 1848=
=0ANavy 1840=0AOlive 1662=0AOrange 1600=0APeach 1848=0APink 1720=
=0APlum 1878=0APuce 1787=0APurple 975=0ARed 700=0ARose 1530=
=0ARust 1716=0AScarlet 1386=0A*Silver 1481=0ATan 1749=0ATangerine =
1899=0ATeal 1923=0ATurquoise 1853=0AUltramarine 1598=0AVer=
milion 1400=0AWhite 950=0AViolet 1370=0AYellow 700=0A[For scholar=
s, the corpus I=92m using is the Bank of English]=0ABack to my study.=0AAnd=
rew
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ad><body><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;=
font-size:12pt"><DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman=
, new york, times, serif">hey you are right, I dont care and yet I use it i=
n some games. Weird huh.</DIV>=0A<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY=
: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> </DIV>=0A<DIV style=3D"FON=
T-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">A good =
dye comes down to the correct combination of fabric, dye and mordant. diffe=
rent mordants can create a different colour for the same dye.</DIV>=0A<DIV =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, se=
rif">With the magic of Alusia comes more exciting effects, and alchemy is o=
ne of those that should, at the more expensive end of the tailoring, be abl=
e to produce almost any colour.</DIV>=0A<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT=
-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">But really, that is only =
in theory and in practice it may take years/decades/centuries (elves eh?) t=
o devise the correct magical support for a colour.</DIV>=0A<DIV style=3D"FO=
NT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Or the=
theory may involve sympathetic dialogues so that some colours are only ava=
ilable on certain days of the callendar and the practice involves demons, o=
r merely lazy dyers.</DIV>=0A<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif"> </DIV>=0A<DIV style=3D"FONT-SI=
ZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">How to have=
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Anyway, good digging and lots of enjoyment to be had keeping ahead of the r=
oyal household, although a short distance behind tends to work best.</DIV>=
=0A<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, t=
imes, serif"> </DIV>=0A<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tim=
es new roman, new york, times, serif">Ian<BR><BR></DIV>=0A<DIV style=3D"FON=
T-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- O=
riginal Message ----<BR>From: Andrew Withy <awithy@ihug.co.nz><BR>To:=
dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR>Sent: Saturday, 1 September, 2007 7:04:45 PM<BR>Subject=
: [dq] Renaissance Colour Terms<BR><BR>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-n=
z><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is a</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></S=
PAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=
=3D2>=93</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><=
SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>did-you-know</FONT></SPAN><SP=
AN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT f=
ace=3DArial size=3D2>=94</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=
=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> post. I</FO=
NT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3D=
en-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>=92</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPA=
N><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>=
ll assume most of you also don</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=
lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>=92</FO=
NT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3D=
en-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>t care, but for
those that do</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></=
SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>=85</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz></SPAN></P=
>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The wide=
range of colour terms that we use in English appear to be quite recent (</=
FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=
=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den=
-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial=
size=3D2>similar finding</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=
=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>s</FONT></SP=
AN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><=
FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> in other languages too). Many colour terms were=
introduced as dyes were found to consistently produce a</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=
lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> <FONT fa=
ce=3DArial size=3D2>single shade</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SP=
AN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.</FO=
NT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN
lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This means that the vocab was mu=
ch more limited</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><=
/SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in Renaissance times<=
/FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=
=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></S=
PAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D=
2>and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPA=
N lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>many philologists</FONT></SPAN>=
<SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FON=
T face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=
=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thought</FO=
NT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3D=
en-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that colour vision</FONT></SPAN><SPAN la=
ng=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> <FONT
face=3DArial size=3D2>only</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN la=
ng=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>evolved i=
n the last 2,000 years)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=
=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.</FONT></SP=
AN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><=
FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> GMs with limited colour vocabs (like me)</FONT>=
</SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-=
nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>need not feel so bad !</FONT></SPAN><SPAN l=
ang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz></SPAN></P>=
=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>---------=
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AN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SP=
AN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Recorded</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lan=
g=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=
=3DArial size=3D2>colours up to 1500:</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><=
SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Black 700</FONT><=
/SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2=
>Green 700</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-=
nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Grey 700</FONT></SPAN></P>=
=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Red =
700</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-=
nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yellow 700</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P alig=
n=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>White 9=
50</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DAria=
l size=3D2>Purple 975</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=
=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>*Gold 1300</FONT></SPAN></=
P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Blue&nb=
sp; 1300</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz=
><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brown 1300</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P =
align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Violet 13=
70</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DAria=
l size=3D2>Scarlet 1386</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den=
-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crimson 1400</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=
=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vermilion  =
; 1400</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN la=
ng=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>*Silver 1481</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P =
align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Azure &nbs=
p; 1481</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=
=3DArial size=3D2>Amber 1500</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></=
SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3D=
left><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-----------------------=
------------------</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-g=
b></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz></SPAN></P><BR>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3D=
en-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And a wider range of standard colour term=
s:</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DAria=
l size=3D2>-----------------------------------------</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lan=
g=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz></SPAN></P>=
=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Colour</F=
ONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=
=3Den-nz> </SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><=
SPAN lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First recorded</FONT></SPAN>=
</P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Amber=
1500</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><F=
ONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aqua(marine) 1862</FONT></SPAN>=
</P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Azure=
1481</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><F=
ONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Beige 1879</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P ali=
gn=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Black =
700</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DAri=
al size=3D2>Blue 1300</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft=
><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brown 1300</FON=
T></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=
=3D2>Carmine 1799</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><F=
ONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Charcoal  =
; 1952</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3D=
Arial size=3D2>Chartreuse 1884</FONT></SPAN><=
/P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cream&=
nbsp; 1872</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FO=
NT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crimson 1400</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><=
SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Emerald 1598</FONT></SPAN></P=
>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fawn&nbs=
p; 1881</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz>=
<FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fuchsia 1923</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dlef=
t><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>*Gold 1300</FO=
NT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=
=3D2>Green 700</FONT></SPAN></P>=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=
=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Grey 700</FONT></SPA=
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| Subject | Re: [dq] Sea Goddess Haven |
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| From | Ian Wood |
| Date | Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:26:05 +1000 (EST) |
me thinks salvage is a pretty good case here. It was abondoned. I vote we arrest the previous owners for causing a navigation hazard. Ian ----- Original Message ---- From: Helen Saggers <helen@owbn.net.nz> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sent: Monday, 3 September, 2007 9:47:47 AM Subject: Re: [dq] Sea Goddess Haven There is a problem with this.... Simon White the player of Grendal Beetleknox is in Japan. He was in Japan when the ship was taken, and I know he is unhappy with the situation.... its just hard to make a fuss when you are only in the country for a week at Christmas and you don't find out your characters lost him home until... almost a year later. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Bean" <jonathanB@timedisciple.com> To: <dq@dq.sf.org.nz> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: [dq] Sea Goddess Haven Hi all, I (Engalton) would like to meet with the characters who owned and or where or are involved in or with the Sea Goddess Haven at the guild meeting please. I would like to talk to you about the situation and why it was taken and then later returned to the Elves. Could the players who want to come along and talk about it, email me direct at Jonobean@gmail.com I will try to get William to come along also. Kind regards, Jonathan Bean ________________________________ From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of Errol Cavit Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2007 1:41 p.m. To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] County of Brastor? The events of Autumn 806 were not communicated to those that claim to own her? I hope that this is a out-of-game oversight/communication issue. http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/The_Siege_of_Novadom Cheers Errol -----Original Message----- From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of Michael Scott Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2007 23:04 To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] County of Brastor? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:16:32 +1200 Subject: Re: [dq] County of Brastor? From: dworkin@ihug.co.nz To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz The Pride of Fingolfin (Sea Goddess Haven) is floating outside Newhaven and is being refitted by elves back to being a Battleship. Gosh that's nice of them but when are they going to return it and how much rent are we getting? Also what is the blue book on it especially now that it is modified and just which of the current owners agreed to the hireage ( I'm working on a master rank for Asparagus growing). TTFN Human the Fool ________________________________ Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! <http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx%20> -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |